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who are the people in the order ovate descriptions? the messenger is the bazaar, the owls are presumably the masters, the dragon is storm (unless it's the one eating the owls) but what is the raven and the phoenix?
Anonymous
Between the Order Ovate medals and the play at the Panopticon at the Feast of the Rose, here’s What I’m Think.
Isn't Fallen London itself a labyrinth twisted around the Bazaar? Does that make seven?
Anonymous
I suppose that works, yeah.
Wait, the comets are special? How so? And isn't the moon directly involved with the corrupted form of sunlight that results in visions of the Upstairs?
Anonymous
The Bazaar (and presumably any other Messengers out there) is kind of a bit similar to a comet, since its job is to get real close to stars and then return.
Fair point about the Cut with Moonlight stuff, it slipped my mind. Amend the statement to “the moon is a rock with really specifically weird reflective properties”, I guess.
Why are the Judgments viewed so antagonistically? They are very remote and intolerant of disorder, but it is the very severity of their laws that creates order and life on the surface and, by extension, allows for it in the Neath? They hardly seem malevolent entities, especially when compared with the horrific sorrow spiders, the destructive devils, the scheming Masters, and the unreal denizens of Parabola. I assume I'm missing something?
Anonymous
The Judgements are pretty much the closest thing to a globally antagonistic force in Fallen London, as far as I see it. They’re the reason why the Bazaar’s in the Neath at all, for one thing, but they’re also jerks who will literally melt you for daring to step out of their order. I don’t think their laws are what permit life; I think life exists because they want it to, and their laws are a way of constraining that life. The Great Chain goes up to the stars, and it prisons us all. Life flourishes and souls grow, all for the benefit of the Judgements. All souls return to the heavens, to be consumed and digested, so the stars may savour the experiences. This isn’t considered to be a particularly positive thing.
There aren’t really very many characters in the Fallen London canon that have a good word to say for the Judgements. There are some Khanate priests who hold them in a sort of terrified reverence; the Tartar Priest is too afraid to ever return to the Surface after learning of the Judgements, afraid of what they might see. The Neath is the only place to hide from their merciless, baleful gaze, and even then, it’s not absolute freedom; some laws still rattle around the cavern, old and decayed but still extant. The Judgements get everywhere.
And their laws; the chief law, which recurs time and time again, is the Great Chain. A hierarchy of all beings, with the Judgements at the very top and everything below them. Try and modify your position, and you’ll get owned. Fall in love with anything above your station, and you’ll get owned. This way, I suppose, nothing can rise up, become stronger and challenge their position as the Gods Of All Things.
Life exists so the gods can eat us. Laws exist so we can’t stop them.
I was under the impressions that the prison of flint was a a place where the thief of faces was actually imprisoned, but it looks like it was a prison for actual living flint? Do we really know either way or is it not actually addressed?
Anonymous
The Prison of Flint probably held the Thief of Faces at some point in the past, but not any more. Now it is pretty much a prison for statues of flint.
Who is the Fathomking's Bride ?
Anonymous
A Lorn-Fluke.
How much is known about Caligula's Coffee House?
Anonymous
There’s not much to know. It’s a coffeeshop on Ladybones Road where all the cool kids hang out. Their Number Four Special is capable of giving you a flood of incredible ideas, or alternatively it may just mess you up so bad you can’t write. The Last Constable’s office is on the floor above the coffee shop. That’s pretty much it.
Do you think it is possible that the "sun" under the Zee in the East is Salt itself ?
Anonymous
I think it’s probable.
I feel like I am missing something. What exactly did the Revolutionaries do in those destinies relating to the Liberation of the Night? With Salt gone, and the Dawn Machine not working, what is the light in the neith that they destroyed? Also how? Or is it just some terrible thing they did and now none of the candles work or something?
Anonymous
The Liberation of Night in the Neath is just a test run to see if the principles used for eradicating light actually work. The Neath isn’t totally lawless (just mostly); the Liberation presumably gets rid of what little was left, on top of breaking all the lamps and killing the Bazaar and probably the Mountain as well.
whats the deal with the stone tentacle key? What is it and why is it in the sisters well?
Anonymous
The Stone-Tentacle Key actually had/has a couple other sources besides Hunter’s Keep; you can get it at Shroom-Hopping if you have a Peculiar Personal Enhancement, and the Duchess used to give it if you presented her with a full set of Christmas gifts from… 2011, I think. Heck if I know what it actually is though.
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